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  • #570282

    DMoss

    Hi,

    Like the look of your themes, but have a question:

    When using ‘standard’ WordPress themes, it’s relatively easy to retain content and layout when changing themes – part of the idea of the CMS idea of separating content from style/layout.

    But when you use a hi-spec theme which has a layout builder (like Avia), what happens to the content? Is it reusable by other themes? What about your own themes – can I change to a different Kriesi theme without losing or fouling up my content?

    Obviously I have heard that theme frameworks like Genesis allow easy changing of themes without any effect on the content. But I don’t know what would happen with your themes. for example if I wanted to change theme from Enfold to Choices ?

    Be glad if you could clarify. Thanks.

    DMoss

    #570326

    Hey DMoss!

    At least for now, we do not offer the option to use the content with the Avia Builder, with any other way.
    We are – although – in the works of making the avia builder a seperate plugin, which we do not have the right amount yet of the time it will be released.

    Please do let us know if you need anything else

    Regards,
    Basilis

    #570332

    DMoss

    OK, I guess that means it’s Enfold or nothing – because I’d have to start over completely with a different theme, yes? Because that would be a huge job!

    Hmmm…all that glitters is not gold ;)

    Thanks for the news, anyway.

    #570338

    Hi!

    I understand your issue, but honestly there is almost no layout you can not copy with enfold or with some modifications.
    Do let us know if you need anything else, we will be more than happy to help you out.

    Regards,
    Basilis

    #570341

    DMoss

    Thanks Basilis.

    Not sure I fully understand, but you mean it IS possible (somehow) to ‘copy’ content into another theme..??
    How would you do that?

    It would help to know if there is a relatively easy path to doing that (note the ‘relatively’..!)

    By the way, does the Avia builder only work on pages? If you designate a ‘page’ (like say a page called News) to hold your blog entries, and you add the blog content item in Avia……can you style the layout and looks of the blog entries?

    Many thanks!

    DMoss

    #571317

    Hey!

    yes it could be possible. It depends on the other theme though how it will look like though. Just change theme to check it. ALB works on posts too, but notice that you will loose all standard blog settings and need to do everything from scratch.

    Best regards,
    Andy

    #571326

    DMoss

    Hi Andy, thanks for reply.

    yes it could be possible. It depends on the other theme though how it will look like though. Just change theme to check it.

    That sounds a bit tricky – you mean I’d have to buy another theme just to ‘check’ if something works or not?

    As for ALB, I was looking at the blog in the Enfold demo and don’t like the way the blog entries are laid out, either in a category list or as individual posts. But this blog part of ALB is obviously using some templates…. can I alter those templates through ALB? i.e. without having to hack into the php template files (wherever they are) ??

    cheers

    #571332

    Hi!

    1.) just use default WordPress themes to check it. There are plenty of other free themes out there as well.

    2.) Not sure what you mean, but as I already said you need to do everything from scratch when using ALB for posts. There are no templates as far as I know/understand. I recommend to use WordPress’ standard blog layout.

    Cheers!
    Andy

    #571342

    DMoss

    Hi Andy!

    1) but default WP themes don’t use ALB, do they? So anything put through the ALB would do what?….be a mess in a default theme? I mean, presumably you have tested/tried this yourselves?….

    2) What I mean is, where is the layout of the blog styled? Say you have a look at the Construction site version of the Enfold demo (because that’s nearest to what I want in general site style). The blog entries are laid out in a specific way…like with the blog title and category centred in the column. Where is this layout set? In a template file? In a CSS file? In an Avia Builder layout? I’d want my blog entries (actually news entries) laid out differently. How would I set that up? It appears that you can set up a wordpress ‘page’ any way you like with Avia Builder. But what about posts?…and particularly the blog index or category index layouts?

    cheers

    #572131

    Hey!

    1.) Default theme don’t use ALB. Obviously not everything would stay 100%, as another theme might not have the functions Enfold’s ALB has. So you might see some code if another theme does not support a fullscreen slider for example. Just try it for yourself with Enfold and a default WordPress theme and you will see which kind of results you get.

    2.) We recommend to use WordPress’ standard blog layout. However, if you want you can use ALB for blog posts as well, but then you would need to do everything from scratch, as you would loose every standard WordPress setting for blog posts.

    Best regards,
    Andy

    #574727

    DMoss

    Hey Andy, sorry for late reply – been away a few days!

    “We recommend to use WordPress’ standard blog layout.” – ok, so I think what you mean is ditch the avia builder ‘blog’ container, and….do what exactly? What is this ‘WordPress standard blog layout’…? Say I’ve imported the construction demo content and am re-working it. What do I do to get standard posts on a page? Do I have to install a special news plugin and then call it to the page? I’ve got posts – but how do I display the index page of posts (the list) ?

    “if you want you can use ALB for blog posts as well, but then you would need to do everything from scratch, as you would loose every standard WordPress setting for blog posts.” – which is exactly my point: all the styling for this ALB blog seems to be hidden or hard-coded into some invisible file somewhere, you can’t change the ‘layout’ of the ALB blog! Or can you?…

    cheers
    DMoss

    #574748

    Hey!

    1.) I mean that we don’t really recommend to use ALB for blog posts and instead use WordPress’ standard editor. So you don’t have to do anything basically, just don’t activate ALB for bog posts.
    However, if you decide to use ALB for blog posts, then you can do this trick to get WordPress’ standard meta information for blog posts: https://kriesi.at/support/topic/ (Purchase code hidden if logged out)(Purchase code hidden if logged out) -the-advanced-editor/#post-572997

    2.) I don’t really get what you mean. If you activate ALB for blog posts, then you can do whatever layout you want. Just use the elements from ALB.

    Regards,
    Andy

    #574763

    DMoss

    Right, we’re getting very mixed up here….

    1.) I’m not talking about the individual posts themselves, I’m, talking about the posts index, the page which displays all the posts (or all the posts from a category; I’m sure you’re familiar with that??
    I removed the ALB blogs post content element and got….nothing, a blank page.

    2. “If you activate ALB for blog posts, then you can do whatever layout you want. Just use the elements from ALB.” – No you can’t!! If you drag the blog posts content element onto your page in ALB you get a few options, yes – but you can’t style the post title size/colour, nor can you position the post title left/center/right….loads of styling things you CANNOT DO!

    (I’d send you a screenshot but no way to attach here)

    #574987

    Hey!

    1. using ALB on blog post or pages will leave you with short code for the whole page like below all your text, image links etc are all in this short code and it will display as text in the new theme. If you remove the short codes you get your original content back.

    You will not get some features such as easy sliders, accordions and ton’s of other features as it differs from theme to theme. These things you have to re-do.

    
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    2. You do get some of the control you want when you wish to change the blog settings please goto

    Enfold > General Stylings >
    Enfold > Blog Settings >

    Once you setup your site and If you tell us exactly what changes you need to make we will be able to point you in the right directions.

    Hope this helps :)

    Cheers!
    Vinay

    #574991

    DMoss

    Hi Vinay, thanks for the reply.

    I think this demonstrates the difficulty of trying to interpret and answer questions over the internet…..!

    Nevertheless, I have already given examples of styling changes I would wish to make if I was using the Avia blog content item. These changes include:

    1. change the post title size/colour
    2. position the post title left/center/right

    If I am building a page using the Avia builder, most text and headings can be styled, for colour, position and size etc. But the blog content Avia widget does not provide any styling choices for the post title.

    I don’t think I can make it any clearer!

    Kind regards,

    #575041

    Hi!

    please provide us a precise link where we can see the elements in question and provide is a mockup showing the result you want to achieve. Use imgur.com or dropbox.

    Best regards,
    Andy

    #575295

    DMoss

    Hey Andy!

    There isn’t an URL, it’s on a MAMP development localhost.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/43da90vl6o6aa6a/enfold-posts.pdf?dl=0

    cheers

    #575402

    Hey!

    I noticed that you are not registered to our forums and the question is as presales question.
    Now that you have bought the theme and need modifications / changes please do register as user and we will be more than happy to assist you as much as possible

    Cheers!
    Basilis

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