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  • #1406926

    Hi,

    I have the problem, that in my browser (Firefox 113.0 on Windows 10 professional. desktop) ENFOLD produces dark scrollbars at the right of the browser’s window. This bothers me a lot because the design of my website is very light and white.

    Apparently I’m not the only one with this problem:
    https://kriesi.at/support/topic/scrollbar-farbe-scrollbar-color/

    I’ve tested various ENFOLD demos because the scroll bar on my ENFOLD 5.6.1 page (not online yet) is dark – that looks bad if you have a bright, white website.

    Dark scroll bar:
    https://kriesi.at/themes/enfold-overview/
    demo1

    Bright scroll bar:
    https://kriesi.at/themes/enfold-freelancer/
    demo3

    Bright scroll bar:
    https://kriesi.at/themes/enfold-creative-studio/
    demo2

    Dark scroll bar:
    https://kriesi.at/themes/enfold-shop/
    demo5

    My browser’s normal scroll bar is always the light version, e.g. on Facebook or Google search:

    Facebook:
    demo6

    Google:
    demo7

    ENFOLD Forum:
    Also here in the forum the scrollbars are dark, not for the textbox where I am writing in (it’s normal light grey), but at the right browser window:
    demo8

    Since I am obviously not the only one with this issue:
    https://kriesi.at/support/topic/scrollbar-farbe-scrollbar-color/

    … so what the heck is ENFOLD doing that the scrollbars are dark, but apparently not always.
    Unfortunately with my ENFOLD 5.6.1 (still offline, because I’m still working on it) they are also dark, which looks bad, because my website has a very bright, white design.

    #1406930

    UPDATE:

    someone having the same problem, just pointed out to me that this phenomenon is socket color dependent.
    My socket color is #333333

    But that’s very strange … when I now enter a squeaky green #00bd2c as the socket background, the socket and the button-up are squeaky green, but the scroll bar isn’t green, it’s bright as it should be, look here:

    z1

    And when I change the socket color to my #333333 it looks like that:

    z2

    And now look:

    socket background color in bright pink #ff00ff
    the scrollbar is standard grey:
    x1

    and when I make this pink darker to #8a038a
    then the scrollbars get colored in this color:
    x2

    thus it is not only related to the socket background color, but also to the brightness of that color.
    How can I use my standard socket color #333333 AND the standard bright grey scrollbars, not changing all the time I use another socket color?

    Thanks.

    #1406931

    @mike

    To sum it up:
    the scrollbars are dependent on the socket background COLOR and in addition (!) on the brightness/tonal value of this socket background colour:

    – bright socket background colour = standard light grey scrollbar
    – muted, bit darker, middle tonal value socket background colour = coloured scrollbar in the socket’s colour
    – dark socket background colour = dark scrollbar

    How can I “cut” this dependency?

    #1406976

    @BeeCee thank you for tagging me!! That is very interesting, but also explains finally why it is the way it is! 🙏

    But why doesn’t the developer know that? :D

    Best KiM

    #1407045

    Hi,

    This is not theme styling, it seems to be a browser “thing”. If the html tag background colour is dark, then the scroll bar will be dark too, and the opposite for light colours. It doesn’t seem to have any other states other than these two, since it’s not reacting to red or blue for example.

    Apple.com has a light scroll bar by default, but if the background of html tag is set to a dark colour, then the scroll bar changes as well: https://snipboard.io/Vc3tJB.jpg

    Best regards,
    Rikard

    #1407088

    Thanks, Rikard, but it is indeed related to ENFOLD’s socket color settings:
    Set the socket background color to #8a038a then the scrollbars get colored in this color:

    x2

    and this is really not acceptable, sorry. I never had this with other themes.

    @mike
    has dived deeper into it in this old thread:

    perhaps he has an idea for this issue.

    It’s not like it just produces dark or light scrollbars, no, the scrollbars are COLORED depending on the socket background color, see screenshot.

    #1407166

    Hi,

    Thank you for the information provided.

    We have been unable to reproduce the issue on our end. When changing the color of the socket background, the scroll bar remains unchanged. The only aspect that is affected is the background color of the “scroll to top” button. To further investigate the issue, please provide us with access to the site details in the private field. We’ll be glad to assist you.

    Best regards,
    Ismael

    #1407186

    It’s not a problem of my site, several people have this issue, in ENFOL’s Facebook group and here:
    https://kriesi.at/support/topic/scrollbar-farbe-scrollbar-color/ and your own demo sites of ENFOLD produces also different scrollbars depending on socket backg colour, see my first post here with screenshots.

    Have you tested it on a Windows system?


    @blatze
    you have this problem, too.
    Are you on Windows or Apple and what browser do you use? Could you please test if #8a038a as socket background colour produces pink scrollbars at your site, too?


    @guenni007
    do you have this phenomenon, too?
    Hast du das Problem auch, werden deine Browser Scrollbars auch farbig, wenn du in den Themesettings als Socket Backgr Color #8a038a eingibst?


    @ismael
    @mike I have this phenomenon on Windows 10 prof. with Firefox and Chrome browser.

    #1407210

    Hi,

    I use iMac with Chrome, Safari and Firefox. But changing the socket color does not have any impact here.
    But I also tried on Windows with Firefox and there it is:
    Whats-App-Image-2023-05-12-at-10-50-14

    On iMac I only have different colors with different Demo Sites of Enfold just on the bar and only light or dark:
    Bildschirmfoto-2023-05-12-um-10-57-35

    #1407212

    and if you scroll up on Apple you see “behind” the site and there is pink also:

    Bildschirmfoto-2023-05-12-um-10-59-39

    there is NOT a border or something on top!

    #1407213

    Hallo @Ismael ,
    hallo @Mike ,

    auch ich sehe es in Firefox (unter WIN10 Pro) so wie @BeeDee es schildert. Meine Farbe ist #aa2f31.
    Socketfarbe auch im Scrollbalken
    In dieser Form ist es zuvor niemals aufgetreten.
    Es kann doch nicht bei verschiedensten Rechnerkonfigurationen am Umfeld (Betriebssystem + Browser) liegen, das wäre doch zu viel “Zufall”?

    Viele Grüße,
    Ralf

    #1407293

    Hi @BeeCee,

    I can’t reproduce the result you are pointing out either. Tested on Mac and PC: https://wpexpert.se/enfold/

    This demo has a dark background colour applied to the html element: https://kriesi.at/themes/enfold-overview/. If it’s changed, then the scroll bar colour will change as well:

    https://snipboard.io/7GXynE.jpg. I pointed this out in my earlier post.

    This colour is not coming from the socket colour setting, it’s the colour applied to the html element. If you want to change it, then try using this CSS:

    html {
      background: yellow;
    }

    Best regards,
    Rikard

    #1407335

    That does not help to solve this, sorry.

    I want my socket background color #8a038a but I don’t want scrollbars like 90th style in that color.
    The html tag is NOT changed.

    When you read all the other posts from others … it’s not an issue only at my site, see their screenshots.

    #1407341

    Hi,

    No one else seems to be having the problem you are having, so a link to where we can see the results you are getting would be a great place to start.

    Best regards,
    Rikard

    #1407349

    Hi Rikard,

    You mean no one of your Team. I am having the Same Issue as i wrote before and also another impact..

    #1407366

    @blatze
    @ralfehlers
    – Myself
    – and your demo sites

    have this phenomenon

    What result do you have at your Windows PC with Firefox browser when you add #8a038a as socket background colour?

    #1407398

    Hi BeeCee,

    I tried changing the socket background color and checked it with Windows 11 both in firefox and chrome, and it did not change the scrollbar color.
    However, I tried checking on the demos you mentioned and Enfold Shop in particular ( https://kriesi.at/themes/enfold-shop/ ) shows a dark scrollbar in firefox, but scrollbar is the same on chrome. Can you try to add this CSS code in Quick CSS and see if it helps fix the scrollbar color:

    /* Firefox */
    body {
      scrollbar-color: #c1c1c1 #f1f1f1;
    }
    
    /* Chrome */
    body::-webkit-scrollbar {
      background-color: #f1f1f1;
    }
     
    body::-webkit-scrollbar-thumb {
      background-color: #c1c1c1;
      border-left: 2px solid #f1f1f1;
      border-right: 2px solid #f1f1f1;
    }
    
    body::-webkit-scrollbar-thumb:hover {
      background-color: #a8a8a8;
    }

    Hope it helps.

    Best regards,
    Nikko

    #1407429

    Thanks Nikko, but it has no effect at my site:

    zzz

    I’ve created a link to my testsite in the private content below, thanks for checking.

    #1407454

    Hi,

    Thanks for that. I’ve added this CSS in Quick CSS:

    html {
      background-color: #fff;
    }

    It’s working on your site, please review it.

    Best regards,
    Rikard

    #1407548

    very strange, thanks, this works indeed, but you have no explanation why this is the case with ENFOLD?
    I run another site with another theme and there I don’t have this phenomenon – I never had changed the html tag at all with any theme before.

    It must have something to do with ENFOLD and its socket background color, because you can try it for yourself, when you change the socket background color to the colours stated above, the scrollbars change according to that setting.


    @blatze


    @ralfehlers

    #1407558

    Hi,

    The scroll to top colour will apply to the html tag as well, that’s why. If you want to override that styling, then please use the CSS I added for you.

    Best regards,
    Rikard

    #1407577

    ok, thank you, with that it works.

    #1407613

    Hi,

    Thanks for the update. Please let us know if you should need any further help on the topic, or if we can close it.

    Best regards,
    Rikard

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