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Hi,
I’m working with a 3rd party specialised in SEO/SEA and there seems to be an issue with the structure of the pages when using a fullscreen slider.
At the moment the fullscreen slider uses H2 for the caption per slide. Yet, the fullscreen slider is meant to be used at the top of each page (there is a bug if not at the top), so the result is that you have an H2 before the H1. For search engines, this seems to be wrong as they look at the order of the heading tags. It’s important to have an H1 before any H2 etc.
So now I’m left wondering how to best solve this. Is there a way to change H2 in the fullscreen slider to an H1? I only use one slide per fullscreen slider anyway, which means the page will always start with an H1.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Hey DavyE,
Could you provide us with a link to the site in question so that we can take a closer look please?
Thanks,
RikardHi @brandpirate,
Please start a thread next time, please link to your site as well.
Best regards,
RikardApologies for the late reply. I will post the link in the Private Content box.
This is basically a problem for all Enfold users as it is how Enfold works.
- 1) The fullscreen slider element must be the first element on the page to work correctly throughout all browsers. As soon as anyone adds a caption title here, it will be an H2.
- 2) Logically, everyone will then add their H1 page title and any other content.
For SEO, the H1 must be the first text element of the page, then H2 and so on. Yet with the above setup, the H2 will always come before any H1, breaking that SEO rule.
I don’t see a workaround. Any ideas how to get it right?
Thanks in advance!
Hey!
feel free to make a feature request for Kriesi here: kriesi.at/support/enfold-feature-requests/
Regards,
AndyHi!
if you want to get it “right” you would need to hire a freelance developer for this job, as it would require a huge amount of time and customization of the theme. That is why I suggested to you to make a feature request for Kriesi, if you want to see possible changes in the future.
Best regards,
AndyHi,
Although I agree with you about the order of headers on a page I think the actual SEO impact of having the structure you are describing is minimal, if you have a fairly fast site with original content which users enjoy to read and share on social networks you won’t see any real improvements by changing the tag or headers.
Best regards,
RikardIs there any update on this situation?
Although it might not be a huge deal for SEO in many cases, it is be when our competitors are all optimized with H1 tags, similar content, back-links, etc.
It would be great if the Caption Title could be H1 and the Text could be H2. Given the context of how the full-screen slider is used at the top of a page, I don’t completely understand why it wouldn’t be a standard but I do recognize that it can require some time – especially with more important things on the back burner.
Hello moderngravity,
As you can see from the answer of Rikard, this topic basically stranded. Until enough customers talk about this, I doubt anything will change about the way the Fullscreen Slider is set up.
Instead, I opted for throwing the Fullscreen Slider element out of the window entirely. I’m now using 100% height Content Sections with H1 and H2 text boxes and put the background image on Parallax or Fixed. This can be set up to completely function like a Fullscreen Slider with the only real exception that it does not offer extra slides. So if extra slides are necessary, you’ll either have to live with the fact that they have set it up contrary to SEO-guidelines, or mass up enough people to have Kriesi consider optimising it.
Hi @moderngravity,
Like I stated in my last post I think you won’t lose any SEO points for this at all, but I would say that @DaveE’s solution is probably the best solution regarding SEO since a page should not contain more than one h1 and h2 tag respectively if you really want to optimise for SEO.
Regards,
Rikard@moderngravity and @DavyE
Hey guys,
I know I’m a bit late to the party with replying but I stumbled across your thread while looking for something else.
Enfold is a wonderful and beautifully written theme with amazingly clean code. I’ve also spent ages barking up this SEO tree and wasted hours browsing this forum trying to fix things I thought needed fixing, in hope that once my little website was complete it would rank one with Google when people searched for it.
Now I am no coder or SEO guru but one thing I have noticed (other than moderators here being very short when it comes to SEO questions) is forget SEO . Forget worrying about having Htags correctly arranged as sites such as OnPage.Org tell you. Don’t worry about validator.w3.org telling you your site is missing [/p] here and there or have other errors.
Focus on content people want to read, focus on social signals to and from your site, worry about your click through rate and how much time people spend on your site. Most importantly worry about user experience and data highlighting.
Now you most likely think I’m talking a load of crap about now but here in The Netherlands (home to Yoast) there are two very popular and loved by Google websites.
emerce.nl and The Next Web (Google Partner).
Emerce have on their front page 2,326 words within H1 tags and 197 within H2 tags. Their site structure and naming of pages goes against anything you read or is suggested by Yoast yet this page ranks extremely highly in every aspect with Google. If you run their website through the
validator.w3.org make sure you’ve a cup of tea ready to read the results!As I said, I’m no expert but when I start looking at companies who are getting things right with Google its seems it’s because their doing a lot of things wrong. Let’s face it, if your worrying about SEO it’s because your worrying about ranking in search engines and as Google is the only real search engine to worry about, unless you live outside of Europe and the US. Just my 2 cents but focus on your User Experience results from these “testing sites”
Hi @Paul,
Thanks for your thoughts, I have to agree with you on almost all your points. It’s very easy to get caught up by technical “issues” like different validation services giving errors and things like that, but the most important thing is to have content which users will read and appreciate. I forgot where I read it but someone stated that the most important ranking signal today is engagement and shares on social media and that more or less corresponds exactly to your point.
Anyways, this discussion could go on forever but we very much appreciate your input on the subject.
Regards,
Rikard
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