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May 15, 2019 at 9:43 am #1100931
Hi there
I have a question. There already exists a cookie banner in Enfold, but is this compliant with the new EU-Cookie-Law guideline? Or will there be another Enfold update?
Thanks very much.
Best regards
MikeMay 16, 2019 at 5:28 am #1101235May 16, 2019 at 9:11 am #1101346Hi,
Sorry to interrupt. As far as I know, Enfold’s cookie banner is not yet 100% compliant.The official rule is that not anonymized statistical and marketing cookies may only be loaded after prior consent by the website visitor. I believe this is not the case with Enfold. Can you agree with this Rikard?
That having said, there seem not to be many options yet (for WP websites) to fully comply with the law, apart from programming yourself… In my search I noticed that all (free) plugin builders that offer a cookie banner warn that they cannot guarantee that your site is GDPR-proof when you use their plugin. Most of these offer a paid version as well, but several of my clients (such as charity foundations) cannot spend extra money again and again on stuff they didn’t ask for…
The best option (I believe) I found so far is Cookiebot. First you can do a free test which cookies your website in fact uses. Than they offer several plans to comply with the law, depending on the size of your site. They offer a small free version, but I haven’t tried it yet.
Hope this is helpful for you!
Best regards,
MoniqueMay 20, 2019 at 10:34 pm #1102621Hi,
Thank u for the information and the feedback Monique
Best regards,
BasilisMay 21, 2019 at 5:26 pm #1102959Do I understand correctly, that Enfold is NOT compliant with the new EU-Cookie-Law guideline?
And if really not, will Enfold gets additonal features to be compliant?May 21, 2019 at 5:31 pm #1102961Enfold “can” be compliant with the ePrivacy … it depends on how you use the theme and wordpress.*
* and how your country implements the EU guidelines
- This reply was modified 5 years, 7 months ago by cg.
May 21, 2019 at 5:49 pm #1102976Just for all clarity: I didn’t say that Enfold was not compliant. Enfold as such does not load any (personal) cookies.
When you want to comply with the law and you are using (not anonymized) personal statistical and marketing cookies, you would need to show a cookie banner and give visitors the option to agree (or disagree) with these (not anonymized) personal statistical and marketing cookies BEFORE the scripts are being loaded. Since when the scripts are being loaded before consent, the cookies already have been placed.
As far as I understand Enfold does not offer this option (loading of scripts only after consent). I asked Enfold support (here above) to confirm this but so far no reply to that.
There are ways to fully comply with the law by using other systems (ie. plugins) but as far as my investigations go, they will cost you money. For some companies that won’t be an issue, but for several of my clients (ie. foundations) this is an issue though.
I am curious to know if #cg can give advise on how he uses the theme and wordpress to fully comply with the law!
May 21, 2019 at 6:18 pm #1102990@Monique:
I like the way how you carefully formulate your text in a very appropriate way as this topic is not easy to discuss. I try my best as a non-native english speaker to follow your example. For me it’s difficult to write about this because nuances matter.As you said: Enfold itself does not track data and doesn’t need a visitor agreement. So the easiest way to use Enfold compliant with the GDPR and the ePrivacy would be to not use tracking-mechanisms that are not nessecary.
And in germany it’s still “ok” to use a ‘opt-out’-solution while telling the visitor where he can contradict (Telemediengesetz).
Also at the moment it does not even exist a final or valid version of the ePrivacy law … or did i missed it?When using third party tracking like Google Analytics i think a theme can’t handle those plugins which the theme does not include itself … a third party modul needs it’s own solution for opt-in / opt-out … in my opinion it’s not the job of the theme (Enfold).
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Maybe WordPress as the main system could provide a solution for a opt-in to load scripts which set cookies.Even the Google European Union user consent policy requires a “opt-in”-implementiation only when using the marketing features — not for the tracking: https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/2700409?hl=en
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This plugin is free and seems to have a “refuse” option for cookie scripts (not yet used or tested by me):
=> https://wordpress.org/plugins/cookie-notice/- This reply was modified 5 years, 7 months ago by cg.
May 24, 2019 at 12:38 pm #1103914Maybe it is worthwhile trying the following plugin: https://wordpress.org/plugins/gdpr-cookie-compliance/.
I am going to test it in the next few weeks.
@cg: I understand that different countries explain ‘the rules’ in a different way :-(
- This reply was modified 5 years, 7 months ago by Monique.
May 26, 2019 at 9:54 am #1104267Hi,
Thank you for the purpose!
Best regards,
BasilisJanuary 21, 2020 at 10:19 am #1176630Hi
I think this is an endless story with this Cookie Law Guidline Compliance.
So I think you can close this issue.
Best regards
MikeJanuary 22, 2020 at 4:08 am #1177002 -
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